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  CSPAN    Washington This Week    News/Business.  

    February 10, 2013
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skilled labor part done first, would we have -- come behind and finish the job? it has to be a comprehensive approach or we will never get to the hard part. that was probably my biggest concern. especially when i heard about a diversity being is to make a completely. at some they did this country. we should never forget it. if we go back to the declares seven dependents, one of the fact cease to cut the king as effective as to what the people from coming and being able to migrate here. if you are able to look at the statue of liberty when it says, give me your tired in your poor, i do know what people to take away that we forgot it but
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the tired and the poor and the people who are striving for a a better life. those are probably my biggest concerns. we are in getting out of them like we always do. we will prosper because we are resilient to. what about the moral ground we but see if we just said, we would for get about 11 million people, we will not take care of spouses and equal protection under the laws and all of those things. do you worry abut that? what's the country is in a miss. the economy is in a horrible miss. this has never happened before. america has always been a land of immigrants, not democrats. if we wait, we lose a couple
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hundred thousand margaret people losing the economy. until it heals, the american public will of the receptive to the unskilled workers. i am talking about, let's get this over and done with it. let's agree on the dream act. let's give a green card to the undocumented workers. that is toxic right now. of not optimistic with and solve the problem. let's agree on what we agree on a make things easier. let's give an undocumented workers green cards. my father has a green card. he has lived here 30 years happily without having a problem. you do not have to have citizenship to do what is right for people. >> my wife lived here for 25 years until she decided to naturalized. she could of votes in the school board elections, which annoyed
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her. the statue of liberty is on the cover of all the the mission report reports. if you look at the composition of the natural origin and of their composition of a legal immigration to the united states, it is all very givers. when that was passed, there was concern that was not averse enough. it has become very diverse since then. there are at a 55,000 pieces by getting a million applications each year. there are randomly allocated by computer lottery. the that is somewhat of an odd way to set priorities. the commission says it should set priorities and deliver on them. the diversity vis a program felt now, it was not rising to the level beyond of the other
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priorities. >> offs i am excited we are having this hearing. i think it is important to modernize the immigration system. we need to find a solution to the problems we have by being fair. we need to be fair to the millions of americans that want to follow the rule of law. we want to be fair to the millions of americans waiting in line and we have to be fair to the people here illegally. i have a few questions about this. you spoken of the sibling category in your report. i agree with the conclusion of the report. the question get rid of the sibling category. can you explain what you think that is important? >> there are not enough of this
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is allocated for the applications. have a 2.5 million press a waiting list. one of the member is already set with the wait times are. if you are not going to manage backlog, which is with the commission said we should not be doing the, that is a category being used by unconscionable backlogs. it >> we could allocate those two pieces to the higher priority something i disagree with of the report is the best -- the guest worker program. i know this report came up a few years ago. the cooks 15 years. it cooks in my state in idaho, at least two dairy farmers have experienced of the last couple of years.
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in one of the 40 employees did not work to work for the employees and the other 1 come up 57 did not qualify. a they fired all of the employees and they went ahead and asked for people to come market the dairy. they could not find a single person who applied for the position who spoke english. the they do not know if the proposal hired or legal and illegal. they had that done the i nine audits. how could they say we do not have a need it. as a large number of employees. not a single person that smoking laws apply for the position. >> i do not know the circumstances. i would say it is true that in some agricultural areas, in the rural areas where agricultural as, they have become dependent
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on the assumption they can recruit from the undocumented workforce. >> this is different. this is somebody that fired everybody. the could not find anybody who could work in english. i was an immigration lawyer for 15 years and from the same experience as some of the same areas. it is hard to find american workers that want to do the job. your solution as they should do something else. we should let the market decided that. it is something that even in the example you gave us, the owner of the farm had decided he was not going to pick the apricots anymore.
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with the commission i apologize. i liked your words that we progress because we are pragmatic. it seems that your solution is not brag a matchstick. use it has to be a path of a to citizenship or nothing else. the i spoke with thousands of people who are here illegally. they want to come out of the sec doesn't want to be legal and want to be able to work and travel, they went to be able to feel they are treated with dignity. but now many people told me i want to be a citizen should to be a dignified person. if we can find a solution this sort of a pathway to citizenship but the better than kicking 12 million people out, what is that not a good solution? >> i would not said that is in
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the best interest. that is the most pragmatic solution. one of the reasons i believe that is, if we do not go down the route, i am convinced we will find ourselves here in again. if you asked me if that would be better than zero, i would not necessarily disagree with that. is that sufficient? does that address the issues we have in front of us? no. it is not an efficient solution. >> the question i have for you and advocates is what the what the political solution or a policy solution. you have to assist on path was to citizenship. you will beat republicans over the head on this issue. there is good will on the house of representatives to come together and have it but maddux solution to the problem that we have ended modernize the
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immigration system for years to come. >> i thank the gentleman from illinois. >> i would like to say that while we have been here every minute somebody has been deported. most of them have committed really no crime other than working in the united states, which is a misdemeanor the last time i checked. they are raising a family, contributing. there is a question about paying taxes. they pay taxes. you can tip of the social security. they really do not know who to attribute the money to because people have contributed. i think we need to do comprehensive immigration reform so it goes into the right account and that helps fuel the economy. i want the mir and the states and the federal government,
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although the tax dollars enough for it to be in the pocket of some unscrupulous employers do is taxing them and not sending the money on. given that he and his six legislation, we know there was an increase in the earning ability of the undocumented once they became. everybody keeps talking about innovation. let me give you a little bit of innovation. a cut above the uncertainty of the market. what we do and what the causes for the financial markets. i want everybody to think for a month but we think above the uncertainty and the 11 billion undocumented workers wake of uncertainty. i will tell thee what i think they will do. they will buy the house they have always been thinking about, but says they have been talking about have not. we know that 75% of our economic and activity in the united states is somebody going
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a purchasing something. think about those going to insurance agencies to open accounts and to save, for those and i and other baby boomers -- yes, i am part of those group of people that will hopefully soon be going into the sunset -- how soon? >> we have a lot of people, we have the largest percentage of people in the history of our nation leaving the work force in the next 15 years. we need to replace them and these assets. let me take a moment to sit the following. there are undocumented people in this room. there are dreamers in this room. i am happy the president used his executive authority. 150,000 of them are in my office. i have to tell you something.
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he is not a burden. he was legalized in into my office. he is working and paying taxes. how did he get health care? the way most of us get health care. i do not think was a look at immigrants and say, how are they going to get health care? the simba members of congress and health care. it is the simple as they are probably going to get health care. i want to say to everybody here. i want to say to those who have come here. i will butcher your name. i want to say to both of you, we have a bill. it was introduced to the gentle lady from california. for 10 years i insisted nothing happened on any particular part of a comprehensive immigration reform unless we did it all.
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last year, i think a good faith to show we wanted to work with everybody we said 50,000, i would not object. we did not want you to get something while everybody else lost something. it comes from the very first day with your wife. we believe we should welcome you and your talents and at this into how to make a distinction between serving you and bring your taught them being sacrificing the fact your family might not be there with you. with the that is important. i will say to my colleagues on the other side of the aisle, but can resolve this and other issues. i want to say a special thank you to mayor castro. you let up our house. my wife, my doctors, and a grandson -- you looked us up
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with your speech of the democratic convention and your leadership as mayor with your poise and the way it is, you make is also proud and with your story. i would like to say-so thankful that america gave your grandparents a chance that you are here with us today. not all the san antonio but texas in the nation is better because of your service. to buy for your testimony today. >> i thank the gentleman from california. the committee will have order. this is not the way --
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so many of the are not in doubt of the was of the committee. the house was provide the chairman of the committee but punished breaches of order. we a moment ago did not have order in the hearing that room. members must provide in an orderly fashion. let me say, that was not a good accent. to the excellent points made from the gentleman of illinois. the way we resolve this is through discussion and deliberation about the issues, not by disrupting efforts. we will resume the hearing and
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the gentleman from california is recognized without penalty to the loss of his five minutes before that disruption. >> can i get eight extra minutes for this? >> may be. >> amount to associate myself from my good friend from illinois. i am one month, and is older than you, but that does not mean that there is any real difference in us as baby boomers. i do not want to exit the same without resolving an immigration problem that predated my entrance and did the gentleman's entrance into congress. they did not understand politics. i do agree we can get to a substantial if not complete immigration reform bill. i hope after 12 years on the committee of trying to get there, it is my hope that this is the opportunity.
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i have concerns about earlier. i want to associate myself -- i heard this a basically was a grow different crops in california as a resolution to needing labor that we cannot seem to find. is that correct? >> i am saying that farmers and employers make decisions incrementally over time based upon the availability of labor of what price -- >> absolutely. >> we have allowed a system to evolves and which the farmers have made the decisions based on the assumption are dependent on that the continuing flow of labor. that is the nature of both temporary worker programs and undocumented -- >> unwanted challenge that for a moment as a californian.
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i was there in 1986 when the law changed. i have seen my farmers, some of represented in the past and some i have also represent with flowers, tomatoes, strawberries, my wife's home monterey county, literally the majority of all this comes from the county. if we simply say that we cannot have labored to pick that and we need to make other decisions, this fertile land, we will grow something else and import our lead is from another country. if the the real question is, do we have an effective program that gives opportunity to people outside of the united states to come to the united states and work for a period of time and return home in a non immigrant
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-- in a migrant way. if we have a non effective program -- i think that is the real question. up until the 1990's, you were studying the said it time in what's the problem was being read broken as we spoke. you had a migrant labor under the 1986 law that had become permanent. they were under the management ranks of agriculture or the word leading agriculture. as pretty understandable. is it not true but into the 1990's and it true today there are tens of millions of people outside the united states who would stand in line to get good pay by their standards, a migrant jobs and do so under a set of rules fair to them and fair to us. >> if they were fair, that is a
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big if. temporary worker programs have not had that character. -- >> let me talented that. i want a successful resolution. i believe a successful revolution as a one that deals with people already here it appropriate and comprehensive ways. empower us to bring in the people who add to the economy. deal with low-skilled jobs that in many cases if people come to the country, they do it for a short period of time. is our standard today is supposed to be an american way for an american job, or, i want to go to mr. a lot. is it a which this fair and a greater than the wages somebody would find the home country for coming here and sufficient for them to earn a living but also
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go home with more money. if that is the standard then is that not an achievable standard where it is a when-when net. the can have the crops dealt with in a decent way. we can have a flow of labor for the one portion the in fact would not be subject to change migration. >> the commission recommendation says that it was an attractive goal, but not possible to achieve the. >> i will go back to my promise, i want to be quick. we pay more than they would find in their home country, but not necessarily what we are paying today with the rules under the program of a to a. >> the other thing you might want to look at is the backlogs that have been generated the have lots of people not particularly skilled a wedding. they are entitled in some sense to a visa but in the backlog it.
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>> i hear you say it cannot be done that but it cannot work. i work with him on the committee be giving a could. is there anyone that would like to comment on the ability to take care of the portion and a way in which we could see crops and that in fact people want to eat be drawn? >> canada has a guest program that works very well. that is not a bad solution. the high school labor you cannot do that because you want -- >> we want them here permanently. anybody else? i appreciate your indulgence. " the gentleman from washington is recognized for five minutes. >> i come from a district that has technology and the southern part of the district. home of microsoft and other companies and a very rich agricultural industry of
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specialty crops. it is important for many aspects. i wanted to start with you. we talked abut a lot of 81-b. we talked about a start up the visa program. i would if you could talk about what needs to be in such a program. >> it would do wonders for seattle. wonders for new york and even more for silicon valley. there are tens of thousands of companies that would be started overnight if we give the entrepreneur aware's the ability to do that. the start a company but you cannot work for that. we would have a booming on a trip into reciprocal have not seen before it should be independently of what we are doing. that and so we can fix the immediate problem. the big companies are lobbying hard a. they need eds.
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there are debates about whether they take jobs away. imparts to do not need it. with the skilled immigrants are, you do need it. they did a great study on it. the more there is to give green cards to the millions here, they are stuck in limbo. let them starve the companies and buy houses and enjoy the rights the americans enjoyed starting companies and also a lot of research. a, ribbons of research happening at the universities. how do you think the relationship of the members and programs has an immigration on what we are able to lever on the medical area as well as an technology area? what's we need it coming in the and with our new university and starting companies. that is the one thing we need to fix and the united states
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system. that would be to a big boom in startups. right now the system does not work because the researchers cannot get the says. the same problem everyone has. there are slowed down. >> we are talking about apples care. we talked about a lot of technology. we forget their of many need to not just in research and health care but across the health-care system. do you want to elaborate on that a little bit? >> it is clear from a number of work force reports with the baby boomer generation retiring the and with a new health-care environment that physicians and the solutions aside from everything else, a number of areas of the medically served appropriately. there are specialties getting to
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the right hospitals. there are a number of issues. it is also hard to go into a looser sheffield of that is your desire. to miss several years to pay my way because of the restrictions. we have always advocated when you go through the immigration pathways, especially the skilled immigration pathways, there should be a great deal of portability a market-based -- people gravitate to where the demands are. these girls are appropriately needed and where they can function best. we have had the privilege of working with the office in the past -- i am a graduate. the are looking for authorization. there are looking for physicians
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who go to underserved areas and i have to stand the backlog of the end of service at the upgrade ideas it to be a part. >> to talk about agriculture. we are talking about seasonal workers. i know my colleagues brought up earlier on the dairy world. we have many dairy farmers in my district. these are your around or paris. people are struggling to day work force. do you feel differently about the ability to address the issues? there is an economic never to this? >> if they are in your around if there are not temporary workers. seasonal as a more temporary. >> there is still a gap. there is still unemployment guimpe. >> you have to the sitter where the jobs are attractive enough or whether the unemployed work
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force to could be attractive as they were attractive. i do know no -- i cannot comment on that. >> you think it is a financial issue of how much people are paid versus the types of jobs and the skill involved -- these are not necessarily low- skilled, there are different skilled. >> i did it picked strawberries and oregon not far from new district. " so thick we went to the same school. >> it was a interesting difficult well-paid job for a a college student in the summer. i did nothing there are jobs like that anymore. there is a different work force the does the strawberry picking. i think we can see there has been a shift in the origin of the work force. did we really go to the same
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college? >> we did it. in portland. >> i thank the gentlewoman and the gentleman from texas. it >> thank you very much. it is good to have near castro here from san antonio. san antonio is a lot from my hometown corpus christi. they do not have the bay or the beach. i wanted to visit with you a little bit. i really do sympathize. we have a big problem that our immigration system is broken. we have a lot of case work when we had a brownsville as part of the district represented. my heart is broken by some of the family issues. my heart is broken by the fact many people who are in this country without proper documentation of basically an underclass that are not
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afforded full protection of the law. you see them here illegally. there are a crime industry and you are afraid to call the police for fear of you get taken involved in it and you are open to exploitation. it is a real problem that needs to be addressed. i have spoken to republican colleagues. some of my democratic colleagues. it seems that the stumbling block for almost everybody is the pathway to citizenship you have been talking about for such a long time. we look at the promises of the 1986 immigration form that granted citizenship ship to so many people the seal the border and make sure this was a onetime deal. we see that has failed. my question to you is, how do we not end up in the same
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situation 10-20 years down the road if we do this again? my fear is that what we are saying by a plethora to citizenship is that, all right, let's say you seal the borders 100%. he still will have people overstaying their tourist visas. he still would have people overstaying their student visas. the belief is, all right. i will wait them out and they do it again. they create an underclass of people who cannot have a real job. they are doing bootleg dvd is and a working whatever underground economy. how do we craft this so we do not fall in the sand trap? >> thank you for the question. good to see a fellow texan here. i believe as a nation we are
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stronger because we ask people to take an oath and an allegiance to the united states of america. that involves a full participation in democracy and citizenship. i cannot imagine an america where we consign these people to 1 under said this. you will never, ever become a citizen -- >> what do we put into the lot could not invite people to where we are doing the same thing again? that is my concern? >> i think the only way you will accomplish that is with the comprehensive approach. if you try to piece millet, you will find yourself 20 years from now. i believe legislation should include enhanced the border security, enhanced interior security. >> would you support the proposal for a national i.d.? " i would support using
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technology to ensure people who are here the say they are here legally. whether it is that or something like it, there are people are qualified to speak on that. i would say including an ability for employers to verify. the legal status that is better -- >> we tried to do that and it failed. you are still going to have the underground employers if you have people overstaying their visas. you have answered different variations time and time again. how by granting a generous pathway to citizenship -- >> how do we avoid creating an incentive for people to come here? that is what my constituents and most people and talking about
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-- that is the big stumbling point. >> you solve the issue you have in front of you. you improve the ability to keep people at this and that be here. and sure people do not overstayed their visas. >> i do not see how you do that without shipping everybody who comes over here to see the statue of liberty to track them. i am really concerned about that. >> selling our hands up is not an option. once the chair recognizes the did the man from florida for five bandits. >> i wanted to ask you, what type of computer did you grandparents engage in? >> my grandmother actually ended up working as a maid, a cook, and a babysitter. >> very good it. i wanted to know what this hearing would be like
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desperately seeking canadians to come to this country because we have nobody wants to be there. it is not like texas where people want to be in texas. i heard the testimony, i burry about it. you seem to create a crisis after saying our country is a miss. i hope you were just talking about the immigration system. what brings people to the country is the opportunity. >> for the moment -- >> you agree the suffering you are talking about is also being visited on immigrants that are already in the country to have documentation. families being separated. it is abets its tuition? what do you think we should make the decision. what should we decide on how the technical people on the door to come into the country and not be said for those who invested and have been here for such a longtime bush a mark >> read on the issue of the undocumented, and it america is divided.
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if you had been fortunate to picked up the reason the paradise of oregon, would have taken the choice? >> i might have depending on the circumstances. >> under your circumstances, the answer is, no, correct? >> the green card is a wonderful way -- the only difference is the right to vote. >> it is called taxation without representation -- >> the republicans the they will lose the battle if we legalize another 11 billion people. the choice of a green card now or as of december 5 years from now, -- >> people would choose that like the juice every day. the of the question i asked, do you think there is a paradise for the people who have been
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here 10-15 years picking strawberries or timid as a corner apricots? do you think that is a particularly good circumstance the last 10 or 15 years the people do this? i will ask you. do you think that is a good thing? of a happy to do this? do they want to be in the permanent underclass? " i do not think so. >> is there a history of any country in the world that did not have the members and heading toward its borders? is there a history of a country that was successful and did not have an abortion? i believe from a babylonian empire through the british and through today, every nation has immigration, correct? >> the commission was a strong supporter of the substantial legal immigration system. >> the remember what the report says?
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courts this such a distance a, but it is on the pediment. i know the poland. i it may lazarus. >> i think we make a mistake here. if we engage in the debate at the there is a paradise, you spent how many years trying to permanent -- make use of this permanent? you would agree that is not a favorable place to be? you would agree that those who even like yourself or highly technical making a good salary of funding of the impediments is done a good thing for the productivity? i would assume because you what the status for yourself, you wanted for all of this a friend and toes and a similar situation? i think the issue here is that we have mistaken and the folks on the other side might be missing -- this is no paradise. people work awfully hard on the american dream. about to be clear here. a path which does not mean we will sign them up to be
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citizens. it is a tourist to be made in u.s. -- that is a choice to be made in your city. i yield back the remainder of my time. >> i thank the chairman. mr. holdings is recognized for five minutes. >> i recognize your resistance to finding a middle ground, something short of full citizenship. if he were an illegal immigrant and the united states was in the business of enforcing the immigration laws and your choice was convicted criminal or almost citizen, you would choose almost a cent. quirks as i said before, do i believe something is better than zero? sure. i do not believe that that
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addresses the entirety of the program here. your focus,ecting it felt hypothetical. if he were giving the opportunity to write the law and ensure that it passed, had we found ourselves 10 years a letter with a large population in the country, would you in forestville lot or find another pathway to citizenship? i would suggest this is not a hypothetical question because this is the question we are dealing with reno for the 25 years ago, they passed comprehensive bill. here we have a low estimate of the 11 billion illegal immigrants and the country.
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what is the mistake that we made in 1986 that we do not need to make this time around to ensure we do not have to do this again? bucks one thing that we can do is to continue to enhance border security and work time -- technology has embedded us. we have an opportunity here to -- the congress has an opportunity to pass a comprehensive was thought out bill. nobody can guarantee -- there probably will be some people who fall into the category. >> we did not enforce the law. >> i think somebody also will have to speak to that. we cannot fill up our hands because we think will have challenges later. doing nothing is an option. >> i. a. three.
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think enforcing the law should have been done and has to be part of the future. my father a lot is british and is an engineer. he has managed worldwide construction for two pharmaceutical companies, one based and the united kingdom and one based here in switzerland. throughout the years, he has complained the most about the immigration laws of the united states and the difficulty it has been for him at times to work and to forgo its members from other countries to work on large construction projects, pharmaceutical? manufacturing project here. you had experience of a u.s. citizen australia and manage $1 billion project, how much of a has so would it be. the >> canada is the same.
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they are welcoming people to come over there. it is harder to get green cards than many other countries. the australia i knew is different that what we know today. today they welcome anyone who graduates from the universities. it is like anyone else, they want to hire the best and brightest from all over the world that we will not let them. it is a country it was a game met. playing football in the country, the only to buy you can hire is people with an the company. we basically are locking out the best talent needlessly. books by district borders in north carolina. numerous high-tech companies there. a number of large software companies are there.
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i have heard from them when they have difficulty getting somebody and the united states. there are able to locate in canada and sky there and put. they pay the taxes and canada. clucks in silicon valley, that is commonly happening. everyone accepts silicon valley. what people his of the campus taxes and interact and the consumer companies up to the finish their projects. >> thank you very much. >> the gentleman from new york is recognized for five of minutes. quirks you have indicated their of the testimony of the need for reasons of policy or practical reasons to emphasize as a tackle the immigration issue, certainly you have found
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a company of 1000 plus employees parity have contributed to the academy. hopefully you have contributed much to america appeared as a religious to the immigration policy, there is an appropriate place to deal with the immigrant issue. we have an issue of dealing with refugees with compassion that makes sense for who we are and where we represent our values. we have a history of granting visas and recognition that we need to draw from people all across the world. as the promise. that makes us stronger. the needed to promote family. for reasons that makes sense as well as the --
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>> the gentle lady from california has made the. some of the most significant start up companies was started by immigrants whether yah hoo, google, the bay, who did that come into the country through the highly skilled the subprogram?" i was in the new york as a child. being in america is quite an experience. 11 delete 60's i always wanted to come back. my father was transferred to the consulate in new york city. would you agree best of your
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experiences the unit has been and continues to be what an end to apart. the quirks the only thing i have been arguing as to whether 20,000 immigrants double or triple lived, we want to bring and the there has been a dichotomy of how we find common ground in terms of the immigration reform debate. you have mass deportation
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presented as an alternative. a pathway to citizenship is on the other. you a three that seem to be a false dichotomy. the most appropriate construct is on the mass deportation and an unsecured borders. i believe on both extremes the overwhelming of americans believe me there is appropriate for people of humanity. if that really is the appropriate conduct of mass deportation of one hand and on the other open and secure borders, how do we find common ground? how do we compromise based on the wide ranging alternatives? >> would you agree in that scenario of a firm but humane.
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the other possible compromise, which was raised was permanent settlement costs says pay back taxes. perhaps served in the military and got to the back of a very long the line. could you comment on those flexible alternative this >> i believe you laid it out well. the mass deportation, the woman happen. on the other end, will not open up our borders.
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>> thanks but not least, we have a gentleman from oregon. a think one of the good things about being last is to get to listen and hear about questions. you get to hear a lot of hyperbole.
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>> i have heard that a book halves is not compromise. two things that would never take place is not compromised. you are taking two extends as saying there is a compromise in the middle. you are not compromising. those two would never exist. you have stated you felt it is in the nation's best interests for a path which to citizenship. the question i have is, do you believe all immigrants come to america a legally for the same reason?
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>> i cannot say every comes for the same reason. what's the process of would are coming through, is there room for a discussion -- >> and the discussion of -- there is a need for us to deal with all aspects of this from the security aspect to the legal aspect and also from the ones who are already here. if we only insist on a comprehensive -- i will not say dubai's the process are say we are accomplishing what we are here for. are we not doing a disservice for those who have a deep love for the country the come here for economic reasons and to give something -- they live here for 30 years on the green card? my concern is, a compromise in your mind only or comprehensive
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is a definition we are using that will take us with the desired outcome? what's i think the only effective way to address this is to make it, it half way to citizenship. we are talking about 8-10 years. cook's this is what will get interesting over the next few months. if we viewed comprehensive immigration reform over the guise of an intended outcome, i have trouble with that. one side it may be coming with on a sentence and for reform, if you did not do comprehensive because we did not do -- i think that was testified here, too. you believe that there is only one path. that should be citizenship. there are other alternatives out
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there in the best interest. i do not think you can tag the two. i do not believe circumstances are easy here. anyone here and s that is not legal or what they are hiding has been said. from high tech industry or not. the one thing and never want to lose sight of is there as hard- working taxpayers who have been here who are also having the -- it did do hard work as well. we have to find a balance for the two. there is my concern. >> i believe if we provide green cards to of the workers of media elite. if we fix the problem, there will be consensus nationwide it.
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it does not have to be all and brought a mealy, it can be done over time. we want the right to live here with dignity. let's make this country suffered through the best debates when it can be solved right now. >> we are looking from is protective laws not trapper so is that exclude or include -- would-and the thing. the crux i thank the gentleman from my questions. i think of a thank you firm.
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